Phone: 803-436-2213 Fax: 803-436-2469. The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, were two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina, on August 9, 1976.They had apparently traveled through various places in the United States before being killed in South Carolina. I feel like anyone with an accent or acting French-Canadian in any way, shape, or form would stick out so much in South Carolina (I’m from here). Young people such as these might be the exception. Doe Diaries: Instalment 2 Sumter County Does. Bicentennial. They had apparently traveled through various places in the United States before being killed in South Carolina. Are those really that way, or was that feature added by an artist? He died in 1982 without giving any more information. I think Henry’s alibi was that he was visiting a family member in the hospital. Why? The program goals focus on developing informed leaders and channeling their ideas and experiences toward community resources, including issues and concerns, so that they might help direct the future of Sumter County. We have an Air Force base in our county that’s been in operation since 1941. Clean people that they were, that seems odd! The bodies were on the grass, kind of splayed out. I, myself was one, although it was by plane and in the month of April. 65,000 COVID-19 vaccine appointments on hold in Sumter County. I still hope to see this case solved. No underwear? If they were competing in Canada (the games ended on the 1st, bodies were found on the 9th, so maybe the timeline doesn't add up unless they left the games early) the "from Canada" thing could be a tip of the tongue lie. Sumter County Doe Theory It has been speculated that Le Roi may be Jock Doe (warning: post-mortem images). The serial number had been partially filed away. According to Sumter County Sheriff Anthony Dennis, Jock Doe was from Pennsylvania, while Jane Doe was from Wisconsin. The only witness to their deaths reported he heard a car driving down a dirt road that ran between I-95 and a state highway. Their caskets had windows for viewing the faces. It had had all of the serial numbers when given, the relative insisted. I have some really BIG news. She decided to delve further. Theories ran rampant:  They were Canadians. Third Judicial Circuit Public Records Search; Third Judicial Circuit Court Rosters; Family Court System; LAW ENFORCEMENT. I also mentioned this, OP said it's highly unlikely the people they spoke to would have been able to differentiate from French or French-Canadian accents. On February 19, 1971, two teenage hitchhikers discovered a partially submerged figure floating beneath a highway overpass in Lake Panasoffkee, Florida.. From Wikipedia: “The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, were two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina, on August 9, 1976. One theory is that the couple were involved in drug smuggling or some form of organised crime which would explain the execution style demise they met, the Mafia has been suggested as a culprit for the murders. They both had olive skin. Sumter Daily Item Newspaper; Santee Wateree Regional Transportation Authority; ONLINE SERVICES. I was nearly seven years old in the summer of '76. Another piece I learned from the podcast was that Henry was known to have a pretty severe drinking problem and had accidentally killed a coworker by running them over with a piece of machinery. Sumter County Steering Committee xxx … Seeing as they would be somewhere in their 60's today (20's when they died), their parents may not be alive any longer as they would be estimated to be in their 80's to 90s. Jane Doe’s legs were not shaven. Trace Evidence ***Sponsored by Caliper CBD. author, autopsy, Bicentennial celebrations, coroner, crime scene photo, dead, dental work, DNA, Does, female deer, fingerprints, gun, gunpoint, history, jewelry, John and Jane Doe, kidnapped, missing, missing underwear, motive, murdered, Nation's Capitol, porn movie, robbery, Sara Marie Hogg, Sheriff's department, shot, South Carolina, strange mysteries, Sumter County, trauma, wealthy, witness protection, Copyright © 2011-2021 Caleb and Linda Pirtle. Melba could not tell. I posted this on another thread, but it still astounds me that they found a man with the murder weapon and nothing ever came of it. A, Paula’s Review: That Old Flame of Mine by J. J. Cook, When someone had a little faith in me. You could not see the faces closely. Sumter County was established by the Florida Legislature on January 8, 1853. They were from Argentina or another South American country. I admit, I always leaned more towards Europe because the woman didn't have shaved legs, and I know that in many European countries, women don't shave their legs or armpits. She had been very attractive and you could see all of this in the death photo. Many people traveled to the nation’s capitol for history’s sake. The couple had been shot in the back after they stepped from the rear of a van. Democratic Headquarters 300 South Main St. Wildwood, FL 34785. Sumter County voters are going to the polls today to consider raising their property taxes by eight mills. Photo credit: rarehistoricalphotos.com, thesamikhsya.com. No, no this is awesome. Sumter County Median Household Income equaled $52,594 in 2017, boasting a 18.1% gain since 2010, and again ranking Sumter County first among Florida counties, this time in the category of Growth of Median Household Income. Close. ... Investigators have not uncovered a motive, but they have learned that Warner may have believed in conspiracy theories… Melba was bothered by all of these questions. Sumter, S.C. 29150 The Delinquent Tax Sale slated for Dec. 7, 2020, has been cancelled, as per Sumter County Treasurer Carolina Richardson. No, not for sure wealthy, Melba thought. Sumter County, Florida 7375 Powell Road Wildwood, FL 34785 Ph: 352-689-4400 FX: 352 689-4401 Contact Us Could he have gotten so inebriated that he killed them and had no memory of it, thus tricking the polygraph? The "Carolina Backcountry," as it was then known, became a predominantly agricultural area called Craven County, later Claremont County. 71. While the evidence was thin, police did manage to develop several theories including one which targets a person of interest with a connection to the disappearance of another woman. Had they been kidnapped, forced to make a porn movie at gunpoint, then forced to dress hastily, and exit the van* to be murdered? Archived. While the evidence was thin, police did manage to develop several theories including one which targets a person of interest with a connection to the disappearance of another woman. and when police questioned the brother he told them he had gifted Henry the gun many years prior, and when he did the serial number was intact. Me too!!! Maybe they were headed towards another Bicentennial celebration somewhere, in D.C. even, after leaving Florida. Find 53 listings related to Sumter County Government in Sumter on YP.com. It was proven to be the murder weapon after it was test-fired by investigators. April 05, 2017 ... Additional Theories. Are they a type of female deer that is indigenous to only Sumter County? Sumter County Council Tuesday evening denied a request to rezone a tract of land for a cemetery, passed second reading for a request to amend an ordinance related to a salvage yard and passed third and final reading to allow feather flags with specific guidelines. I also think they are French Canadian, but perhaps their families were recent immigrants from Europe. The Sumter County Does are in fact John and Jane Doe, found murdered 400 meters off of I-95 in a pine-tree riddled spot of Sumter County, South Carolina on August 9, 1976 by a passing trucker. In 1977, a man was arrested in Latta, South Carolina for driving while intoxicated. CHEMISTRY Chemistry. Three Romanians also defected in Canada but not all of them were named. Press J to jump to the feed. The watch was nice, but why not a Rolex, if wealthy? They were later buried in a parish cemetery, to be exhumed and tested for DNA, then buried again. What makes me think his is French is that the shirt he was wearing had the 1975 Camel challenge race at Sebring logo on it, looking at the teams in that race a few were actually French and would compete in the years prior to the bodies being found and after. Lol. It's one that I've puzzled over for years also. Again, you could see all of this in the photos. It was a contract hit. [8] 2 Adolf Hitler And Eva Braun. This was inferred from some of their belongings. Their family might not have reported them missing because they assumed they were committing immigration fraud of some kind or just lost touch because the 70s. It was of their death faces. The Trace Evidence podcast covered this case just this week and he went into pretty good detail about the man who was found with the murder weapon. He took a polygraph. This … Robbery Homicide. to the Sumter County Property Appraiser web site. And of course even if you could see all the names of the athletes you can't know the coaches, coaches family, friends, and spectators. Surely families were missing them. This was inferred from some o Please consider the following counterpoint regarding Craig Estep’s June 7 Op-Ed titled: The real math behind the 25% Sumter County tax increase.Mr. Originally, Sumter County had an area of 1,672 miles, but that was reduced to 681 square miles due to the formation of Clarendon County in 1855, and then Lee County in 1902. I know he wasn’t charged because it was deemed “accidental” and I don’t know any of the details surrounding the incident but I find it suspicious when a guy suspected of murdering two people has been involved in another murder prior. According to a campground attendant the Male’s name was Jacques and that his dental work was very abnormal for the US. I admit, I always leaned more towards Europe because the woman didn't have shaved legs, and I know that in many European countries, women don't shave their legs or armpits. Not necessarily, I live in Sumter. It depends upon where they went to school, but English is widely taught from preschool onward. I always assumed they were either from Canada or from Europe and that their families never reported them missing, which is why they have not been identified, and that their families weren't looking for them because they had left possibly on bad terms and in the intervening years, there may not be anyone still alive from their immediate families. Most of his mouth was filled with extensive dental restorations. What would happen if I contacted the Sheriff’s Department? The man was located but was not charged because insufficient evidence existed to file charges against this individual with the murders. The serial number was scraped off but police were still able to decipher it. It was hard to tell. Do I dare look at post mortem photos, if they are available? The woman's legs might have been unshaved only because she didn't have access to a razor while she was traveling. (Scott Olson/Getty Images) (SUMTER, S.C.) A woman found shot to death in South Carolina in 1976 has been identified by her DNA as Pamela Mae Buckley of Colorado Springs, according to The Denver Post.. Sumter County Sheriff Anthony Dennis said Thursday that Buckley and a man, later identified as James Paul Freund of Pennsylvania, were found in August 1976 on a road off Interstate … They were under a witness-protection program. Did he loan the gun to someone, then have a fear for how the person had used it? Hmmmm. Posted by u/[deleted] 6 years ago. So totally off topic but where did you get the info tgat europeans don't shave? 5 Disturbing Theories On The Sumter County Does Murders: Unsolved - Duration: 6:07. Most of the information about the games only includes people who placed. They were both brunette, her eyes brownish-green, his brown. There is one person I am intrigued by but I don't want to post their name yet because I feel bad speculating about living people. Outsiders are completely normal and have been for a long time. Although, I acknowledge that it was the 70s, and it wasn't unusual for women who lived the more "bohemian" or 'hippie' lifestyle to not shave, wear make up, bras or underwear. MAPPING. A relative admitted giving him the .357 Smith and Wesson for a birthday. I wasn't able to find a full country roster. Both met while hitchhiking. Sketches of the Sumter County John and Jane Doe (Image: Sumter Mystery Couple Facebook) The pair died on a summer morning by the side of the road in Sumter County, South Carolina. He did not kill them, the polygraph indicated, but he was being deceptive about where he had gotten the gun in the first place. There was a cold case profiled on Canadian TV about Reet Jurvetson...she was found in California way back when. I also focused on contact sports and sports that are common among wealthier people, like sailing, keeping in mind they may not have defected but simply decided to travel after the games. Still there are no answers. The bodies were kept sealed in a funeral home for a time in hopes of identification. After thirty minutes of searching on the web, Melba found the crime scene photo. The young man was described as having thick, bushy, dark eyebrows. Sumter County’s Median HH Income. I’d bet if he had lived long enough for forensic technology to advance to where it is now that he would’ve eventually been arrested, no doubt. He owned a revolver (found in his vehicle) of the same kind as the murder weapon. Various reports listed them as “wealthy,” because of expensive dental work the young man had, his expensive watch, and other jewelry. I found some leads but no slam dunks. Trace Evidence ***Sponsored by Caliper CBD. She was Canadian but her parents were recent immigrants from Estonia. The Sumter Mystery Couple has been identified! That usually seems to be the case with these well publicized cases of unidentified does that are still unidentified after decades-- no missing person reports, no family or close family still alive. Sumter County, Florida 7375 Powell Road Wildwood, FL 34785 Ph: 352-689-4400 FX: 352 689-4401 Contact Us It sounds kinda strange. The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, were two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina, on August 9, 1976. Hmmm. On January 19, 2021, the DNA Doe Project, which had previously solved the Buckskin Girl case, announced that the Sumter County Does had been successfully identified. Estep is perpetuating a conspiracy theory that is being chanted by a small, but vocal, group of people who are trying to convince Sumter County taxpayers that the sky is falling. This is all just off the top of my head from memory so I may have gotten some small details wrong, I am a little shaken on the murder weapon because that was such a common firearm for the time (357 magnum revolver) to the point where it was the standard issue for the SCHP, and ballistic matching is not as concrete as other forensic sciences. That was the year of all the Bicentennial celebrations on television and elsewhere, Melba thought. One USSR athlete famously defected but later agreed to go back. Juan Rodriguez. ... Trump pressed his hopeless case to overturn the election in front of the crowd in a speech laced with conspiracy theories. Sumter County, SC, and its County seat, the City of Sumter, were named for Revolutionary War General Thomas Sumter (1734-1832), who was a resident of the area. The only witness to their deaths reported he heard a car driving down a dirt road that ran between I-95 and a state highway. That was the year of all the Bicentennial celebrations on television and elsewhere, Melba thought. Her teeth were straight. If they had spent any time around Sumter county, I think someone would’ve noticed them as outsiders immediately. ‎Trace Evidence is a weekly true crime podcast that focuses on unsolved cases, from chilling murders to missing persons. Discovery of the body. T They had apparently traveled through various places in the United States before being killed in … There were three questions she wanted answered—answers that she had not found in her research, that they should know by now. The jewelry and watch were left on the bodies (unless they had a huge wad of cash on them that was taken, and no one has an answer to that, naturally). SUMTER COUNTY DOES IDENTIFIED!!! Sumter, SC National Enduro Round 1 - Duration: 9:32. The Sumter County Does, Jock Doe and Jane Doe, two unidentified homicide victims found in August 1976 in Sumter County, South Carolina have been # IDENTIFIED ater 45 years by genetic genealogy of DNA Doe Project as 25 year old Pamela Mae Buckley missing from Colorado and 30 year old veteran James Paul Freund missing from Pennsylvania. And truly old money wealthy people did not have the need to show off their wealth with bling. Also, at this point - we have to assume if there are any relatives left of the Sumter County couple - they would probably be siblings or friends of them. The Sumter County Does remain unknown. MAPPING. Middle class people often splurge on expensive dental work. She found the ones that the police sketches had been made from. This … It was horrible. While the evidence was thin, police did manage to develop several theories including one which targets a person of interest with a connection to the disappearance of another woman. 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